Energy Surge not dealing correct dmg? - Guild Wars Forums

Medion · Feb 02, 2006, 09:14 PM // 21:14

Hi, I have been testing a little with mesmers and used energy surge. It says it deals 8 damage for every energy point stolen to all adjacent foes. But sometimes, I do steal ten energy, but only deal like 24 damage. Could anyone tell me why I don't deal 80 damage?

Thanks in advance.

Mandy Memory · Feb 02, 2006, 09:46 PM // 21:46

Perhaps they only had 3 energy?

Mercury Angel · Feb 02, 2006, 09:54 PM // 21:54

As was said, they are only damaged for the energy they actually lost.
If that's not the case, then perhaps they had a damage reduction skill up?

Kaguya · Feb 02, 2006, 09:57 PM // 21:57

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Originally Posted by Mandy Memory

Perhaps they only had 3 energy?

Correct answer, I presume.

I run my W/Mo when soloing, having two enchants so I have no energy regen, then after first mind burn/wrack/whatever, mesmers in PvE are pretty powerless in certain areas.

Medion · Feb 03, 2006, 03:00 PM // 15:00

I checked several times and they did lose 10 energy. At least, I guess the purple 'dmg' shows energy, and I am sure it said -10.

CKaz · Feb 03, 2006, 04:44 PM // 16:44

So it wasn't just your positive, you saw their negative to that size too eh?
Hmm - I do know when UW mobs hit me with it they do full damage :b lol

Jenosavel · Feb 03, 2006, 05:26 PM // 17:26

The purple numbers that come up from energy loss on such skills as Energy Surge and Energy Burn have, in my experience, never been accurate. They always say the maximum amount of energy that your opponent should lose from the skill whether or not that player has that much energy. You really have to gauge how much energy the opponent has by the damage numbers displayed or the amount your own energy goes up (in the case of energy stealing skills).

darkMishkin · Feb 03, 2006, 05:56 PM // 17:56

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Originally Posted by Jenosavel

They always say the maximum amount of energy that your opponent should lose from the skill whether or not that player has that much energy.

Either that or some sort of damage reduction. But it may well be a UI issue.

Mandy Memory · Feb 03, 2006, 11:11 PM // 23:11

if someone is at 1 life and i use final thrust, it doesnt come up as "1"

RotteN · Feb 03, 2006, 11:50 PM // 23:50

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Originally Posted by Medion

I checked several times and they did lose 10 energy. At least, I guess the purple 'dmg' shows energy, and I am sure it said -10.

mesmer skills that drain energy will always "create" the maximum purple number above the foes head. it does not indicate how much the foe actually loses. If things like surge or burn don't do their max damage your target is most likely drained, slap on mind wrack, use another nrg burning skill and enjoy the damage

MMSDome · Feb 04, 2006, 01:00 AM // 01:00

i never ahd that problem before because it takes a max of 10 energy and 8 for each energy loss. My best guess is they had less then 10, look harder because armor doesnt block it.

Lichtenberg · Feb 04, 2006, 01:11 AM // 01:11

it always says they lost 10 energy even if they didnt have 10
thats y u only did 24 dmg it said -10 but they only had 3

Effendi Westland · Feb 04, 2006, 01:36 AM // 01:36

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Originally Posted by CKaz

So it wasn't just your positive, you saw their negative to that size too eh?
Hmm - I do know when UW mobs hit me with it they do full damage :b lol

Thats probably cuz they surged someone close who did have 10 nrg.

dgb · Feb 04, 2006, 02:03 AM // 02:03

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Originally Posted by Medion

I checked several times and they did lose 10 energy. At least, I guess the purple 'dmg' shows energy, and I am sure it said -10.

That is the max energy they lost. Just like if I hit a foe with 40 health with something big it still shows 140 damage, even though they only lost 40.

Feb 02, 2006, 09:14 PM // 21:14	#1
Medion Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Netherlands	Energy Surge not dealing correct dmg? Hi, I have been testing a little with mesmers and used energy surge. It says it deals 8 damage for every energy point stolen to all adjacent foes. But sometimes, I do steal ten energy, but only deal like 24 damage. Could anyone tell me why I don't deal 80 damage? Thanks in advance.

Feb 02, 2006, 09:46 PM // 21:46	#2
Mandy Memory Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Guild: Xen of Sigils [XoO] Profession: W/	Perhaps they only had 3 energy?

Feb 02, 2006, 09:54 PM // 21:54	#3
Mercury Angel Avatar of Gwen Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Wandering my own road.	As was said, they are only damaged for the energy they actually lost. If that's not the case, then perhaps they had a damage reduction skill up?

Feb 03, 2006, 03:00 PM // 15:00	#5
Medion Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Netherlands	I checked several times and they did lose 10 energy. At least, I guess the purple 'dmg' shows energy, and I am sure it said -10.

Feb 03, 2006, 04:44 PM // 16:44	#6
CKaz Jungle Guide Join Date: Feb 2005	So it wasn't just your positive, you saw their negative to that size too eh? Hmm - I do know when UW mobs hit me with it they do full damage :b lol

Feb 03, 2006, 05:26 PM // 17:26	#7
Jenosavel Master of Beasts Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: Servants of Fortuna [SoF] Profession: R/	The purple numbers that come up from energy loss on such skills as Energy Surge and Energy Burn have, in my experience, never been accurate. They always say the maximum amount of energy that your opponent should lose from the skill whether or not that player has that much energy. You really have to gauge how much energy the opponent has by the damage numbers displayed or the amount your own energy goes up (in the case of energy stealing skills).

Feb 03, 2006, 11:11 PM // 23:11	#9
Mandy Memory Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Guild: Xen of Sigils [XoO] Profession: W/	if someone is at 1 life and i use final thrust, it doesnt come up as "1"

Feb 04, 2006, 01:00 AM // 01:00	#11
MMSDome Raged Out Join Date: Sep 2005	i never ahd that problem before because it takes a max of 10 energy and 8 for each energy loss. My best guess is they had less then 10, look harder because armor doesnt block it.

Feb 04, 2006, 01:11 AM // 01:11	#12
Lichtenberg Furnace Stoker Join Date: Sep 2005 Guild: Mass Delusion [LARP]	it always says they lost 10 energy even if they didnt have 10 thats y u only did 24 dmg it said -10 but they only had 3